mkds and xlink kai

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:32 am

I have find something i can connect to xlink kai whit my ds whit my router and i dont have pci cart and is say gamecube fully configure

Team XLink Moderator Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 1003

explain please Smile

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:31 pm

ok first i go to xlink kai config on real mac adress i type my mac ds adress on virtuel to after i go on my wifi setting on my mkds i type my wep key after on ip adress my router ip after on masque reseau i type my masque reseau after on default paserelle i type my pc ip and on dns i type my pc ip after i go on xlink kai gamecube and i do test conection and it say gamecube (my ds mac adress)proprely configure.

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:08 am

That would make sense; Mario Kart DS uses true Wi-Fi as opposed to Ni-Fi, so any Ethernet client (such as Xlink Kai) should be able to talk to it. It'd be cool if Kai supported Mario Kart DS, although since it's online for free anyway, it might be kind of pointless.

Oh, wait, doesn't MKDS support 8-player LAN, but only 4-player online? Maybe MKDS on Kai would be a cool thing after all. Can a Kai expert comment, please?

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:00 am

biolizard89 wrote:

That would make sense; Mario Kart DS uses true Wi-Fi as opposed to Ni-Fi, so any Ethernet client (such as Xlink Kai) should be able to talk to it. It'd be cool if Kai supported Mario Kart DS, although since it's online for free anyway, it might be kind of pointless.

Oh, wait, doesn't MKDS support 8-player LAN, but only 4-player online? Maybe MKDS on Kai would be a cool thing after all. Can a Kai expert comment, please?

dont forget battle mode only works on local! Razz

Team XLink Moderator Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 1003

well i can't get it to work so can you guys try too...i can't get it to work

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:07 pm

if you have a wirless router and you opend xlink kai and after you go play online it will show you failed to configure.but me i have change some setting it say configure sussesfuly

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:08 pm

but guy all lan on the ds is nifi

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:18 pm

fireblood wrote:

but guy all lan on the ds is nifi

Oh . . . I knew I was forgetting something . . . damn.

Anyway, please post details on what settings you changed to get it to work . . . this sounds cool.

Nintendo Specialist Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1889

Even though kai might reconize the ds it may not be possible to find players sense MKDS used the NWFC server to find matches but im not for sure, the game its self might be searching for people on the network (similar to lan) so if it were possible to get a number of DSs on an isolated network (where the ds cant bypass kai and go to NWFC network to find players) then it could be possibe.

there is still a small hope Smile

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:09 pm

You would want to use the MULTIPLAYER option though and not the WFC mode. The Multi offers EVERY TRACK, BATTLE ect.. There are only 20 race tracks online. So I hope its up soon.

Nintendo Specialist Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1889

kathryn wrote:

You would want to use the MULTIPLAYER option though and not the WFC mode. The Multi offers EVERY TRACK, BATTLE ect.. There are only 20 race tracks online. So I hope its up soon.

There isnt a way to tunnel the ds. The reason why the ds is being detected is because they are loging into NWFC. The router/wireless card is picking up the wifi signal.

If NWFC is a peer to peer connection and you could isolate the packets (keep them from going to nintendo) then it would be possible. The first thing we need to do is determine if it is a peer to peer connection. This will be a side project of ours. Now if only we could get the DS Contributors to help out (im one)

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:06 pm

true, but are they using wifi or bluetooth in lan mode?

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:11 am

kathryn wrote:

true, but are they using wifi or bluetooth in lan mode?

Neither. LAN mode in all DS games uses Ni-Fi (which is a proprietary protocol created by Nintendo, which uses a Wi-Fi chipset), if I remember correctly.

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:03 pm

it is peer to pear

i read it somewhere
but i forgot where

but anyways do you really think nintendo would have used a server client setup if they decided to make the wifi connection service is free Razz

Nintendo Specialist Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1889

djveeman wrote:

it is peer to pear

i read it somewhere
but i forgot where

but anyways do you really think nintendo would have used a server client setup if they decided to make the wifi connection service is free Razz

That makes alot of sense. It still could be possible. Anyone who has a router that can connect the DS to NWFC post here so we can get some testers.

Now what we need to do is see if there is a way to restrict the devices connected to the router and have their packets sent to kai instead of going to the internet. Maybe kai does it already. You guys with routers, ds and mario kart get together and test this. ( I dont have a router so i cant help u all test.)

Are there any Kai devs that would help us?

Kai Beginner Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 2

THERE IS ALLWAYS HOPE!!!

http://akkit.org/dstunnel/

when he finishs he will release source code!

Nintendo Specialist Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1889

Dudu.exe wrote:

THERE IS ALLWAYS HOPE!!!

http://akkit.org/dstunnel/

when he finishs he will release source code!

Um..from what i have seen in my time, i wont believe it until i see it work for my self ( dslinkup, demasked...)
It wont make any difference now cuz im getting the wifi usb when i get my next check!