360/Perfect Dark Solutions?

Kai Beginner Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

Is this problem just with Pefect Dark.. or do other games experience this problem too.

As for solutions, we gotta figure something out. I don't wanna be forced into using Xbox Live. This can't be left out in the open, we gotta start thinking of something.

Common people lets put our heads together and solve this problem.

Kai Beginner Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

I've try playing on XBOX CONNECT. same issue.

Team XLink Administrator Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 5024

[tHc]W33D. wrote:

I've try playing on XBOX CONNECT. same issue.

Ya, it's the game not the tunnel.. There are a few older Xbox games like this as well (Links 2004 comes to mind). Short of breaking the encryption on system link traffic (which would probably be illegal and utterly exploitable by cheaters) I don't see how it's possible to fix.

Kai Beginner Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

damn. this means im gonna be spending money on LIVE instead of a new game.. God dammit. Confused

Kai Beginner Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

MeanMF wrote:

[tHc]W33D. wrote:

I've try playing on XBOX CONNECT. same issue.

Ya, it's the game not the tunnel.. There are a few older Xbox games like this as well (Links 2004 comes to mind). Short of breaking the encryption on system link traffic (which would probably be illegal and utterly exploitable by cheaters) I don't see how it's possible to fix.

So are you saying that this ping restriction only occurs in certain games, or all of them?

Kai Lover Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 585

Its typically game by game on the Xbox, Ubi use a netcode dubbed "Lighthouse v1.0" (a ping limiter) which was first seen in GR2, and then in Lockdown but interestingly in GR2 SS the ping limit didnt seem as extreme.

Kai Beginner Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

quiksilva wrote:

Its typically game by game on the Xbox, Ubi use a netcode dubbed "Lighthouse v1.0" (a ping limiter) which was first seen in GR2, and then in Lockdown but interestingly in GR2 SS the ping limit didnt seem as extreme.

So is it possible to get rid of this limiter? Or even through the eventual modification of the 360. If not for LIVE than at least for System Link (Xkai)?

that sure would be great.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:52 pm

why do companies even use ping limiters?

is it simply because they dont want people tunneling their games?

Team XLink Moderator Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1536

djveeman wrote:

why do companies even use ping limiters?

is it simply because they dont want people tunneling their games?

not sure but i know it's not entirely because of tunnel apps as even LIVE has it. reason they have these ping limits is that, if someone joins a game with low ping, they can messup ping for the rest of the players. but as game like GR2 it's useless, cos low ping everyone drops Confused

Kai Beginner Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

damn that sux. In while their doing that, they're kill xbox tunneling.

talk about killing 2 birds with one stone. Cool

Kai Enthusiast Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 200

well I knew something like this would happen....well looks like it will be live for me when I get a 360

Kai Beginner Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 47

redwolf wrote:

djveeman wrote:

why do companies even use ping limiters?

is it simply because they dont want people tunneling their games?

not sure but i know it's not entirely because of tunnel apps as even LIVE has it. reason they have these ping limits is that, if someone joins a game with low ping, they can messup ping for the rest of the players. but as game like GR2 it's useless, cos low ping everyone drops Confused

Is this low ping or high ping? I have a hard time believing that for GR2. We've played several US to Europe games with pings reaching into the 200 ms range before with no problems.

Team XLink Administrator Joined: 11 Nov 2004 Posts: 5024

SS-Bateman wrote:

Is this low ping or high ping? I have a hard time believing that for GR2. We've played several US to Europe games with pings reaching into the 200 ms range before with no problems.

Yeah, 200ms is right around the upper limit for GR2.

Nintendo Specialist Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 1889

Ping limits will kill tunnels. look at the gamecube lan games its nearly impossible to play them with out a super fast net connection. I still get lag when on a t1/t3. If you were to hook them up with tru system link there would be no lag. To create the lag that you experience you would need like a mile long cable. Look at the bright side, better games wont have ping limits (halo) and you dont have to have a credit card for live anymore Smile

Team XLink Moderator Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1536

[tHc]W33D. wrote:

talk about killing 2 birds with one stone. Cool

yeah i know what you mean, but the stone comes back down, people over at Xbox.com forum are complaining too.

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:49 pm

I've tried COD 2 and it exibits the same symptions as PDZ. You can see the game but can't connect

Team XLink Moderator Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1536

Politician wrote:

You can see the game but can't connect

is this anything to do with "GamerZone" as only people are in matching group can play Confused

Kai Lover Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 615

redwolf wrote:

Politician wrote:

You can see the game but can't connect

is this anything to do with "GamerZone" as only people are in matching group can play Confused

Entirely related to Live and its matchmaking.

Kai Beginner Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 13

redwolf wrote:

Politician wrote:

You can see the game but can't connect

is this anything to do with "GamerZone" as only people are in matching group can play Confused

The gamerzone has nothing to do with system link. Cuz u can connect to system link games without having to signin to live

Kai Lover Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 957

Just post where your from in your Private Arena & then have a good time playing .
That's what i did last night .
My Private arena was called : Netherlands - Amsterdam .
And people that joined from my country stayed in my game , no problems at all .