PlayStation 3 to emerge ahead of Xbox 2 at E3

Team XLink Administrator Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 4061

Sony will hold its event on a sound stage in Sony Pictures' complex in Culver City, just outside Los Angeles, at 15.00 PST on Monday, May 16th, and is expected to show off the next-generation PlayStation for the first time at this event.
Three hours later at 18.00 PST, Microsoft will kick off its own event in downtown Los Angeles, where it is expected to finally take the wraps off the next-generation Xbox, currently known only by its development codename Xenon.

The scheduling is threatening a headache for media and industry types who need to attend both events, since if the Sony event runs on for a while it could be quite tough to get from Culver City back into downtown LA in time for the 6pm kick-off with Microsoft.

Taken from Xbox-scene

hehe..well played sony!!

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:53 pm

Interesting, but the irony is that the next gen Xbox will most likely be released before PS3. I don't know if anyone else saw the article in the European Playstation Magazine, but there were pictures of what they thought the PS3 would look like. I wonder if it will actually look like that. As for the next gen Xbox, I've only seen the power button and part of the controller. And as for Nintendo and their Nintendo Revolution, I wonder if they will release details around the same time as Microsoft and Sony?

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:28 pm

microsoft is actually hosting an event on May 12th 2005 on MTV to unveil the next xbox!! Shocked

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:13 pm

Schism @ Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:28 pm wrote:

microsoft is actually hosting an event on May 12th 2005 on MTV to unveil the next xbox!! Shocked

Yeah, I read it too. I'm looking forward to that.

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:39 pm

Schism @ Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:28 pm wrote:

microsoft is actually hosting an event on May 12th 2005 on MTV to unveil the next xbox!! Shocked

Which was obviously in responce to this Rolling Eyes

Personally I feel that Sony should get the PS3 out there first, they really should let them show it if so they can see what they are up against and modify there announcement accordingly to better it.

Sony let Sega go first way back when the Saturn was being pitted against the PlayStation. And we all know what went wrong there Rolling Eyes

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:16 pm

sony is getting freaked out now... Wink

its starting to lose key developers to micrsoft and waiting till next year is going to hurt them I think, they are giving the next xbox almost a full fiscal year head start Rolling Eyes

and sony doesn't let other systems go first what is this grade school or something? The reason sony is slowly moving forward is cause they are currntly in a legal battle about the force feedback in the dual shock controllers and if they were to release the ps3 right away it would have to be with NEW controllers, which we know wont happen sony will want to stick with the dual shock models, microsoft was smart and just paid out to inversion back last year to be able to use the force feedback in the s type controllers. instead sony wanted to go the legal court route which now has got them in a bind!

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:57 pm

Schism @ Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:16 pm wrote:

sony is getting freaked out now... Wink

its starting to lose key developers to micrsoft and waiting till next year is going to hurt them I think, they are giving the next xbox almost a full fiscal year head start Rolling Eyes

and sony doesn't let other systems go first what is this grade school or something? The reason sony is slowly moving forward is cause they are currntly in a legal battle about the force feedback in the dual shock controllers and if they were to release the ps3 right away it would have to be with NEW controllers, which we know wont happen sony will want to stick with the dual shock models, microsoft was smart and just paid out to inversion back last year to be able to use the force feedback in the s type controllers. instead sony wanted to go the legal court route which now has got them in a bind!

Not quite.

Sony always planned the PS3 for 2006, when MS heard that they bumped their schedule for 2005 so they can be the first to launch. See, Microsoft is convinced that the PS2 owned the XBox because the PS2 had such a lead over the others.

Fortunately M$'s lead over the Revolution is only about 6 months instead of a full year.

The problem is this; Sony CAN'T bump the PS3 up without completely redesigning it. One of the major points of the PS3 is simply that the PS3 is designed to get Blu-ray in every home so that Sony can win the format wars. Blu-ray doesn't come out till mid-2006, while HD-DVD comes out late 2005 (meaning the Nintendo Revolution will PROBABLY be HD-DVD as rumored/leaked).

So unless Sony removes Blu-ray from the PS3 (and no way they would use the competing standard HD-DVD, they're heading the Blu-ray crowd), they can't launch any sooner than mid or late 2006.

Expect a MASSIVE hyping campaign from Microsoft. They're going to be trying to convince people to buy NOW, because when the other consoles come out they'll both be superior in most ways to the XBox 2.

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:50 pm

not quite??? do you read the news? sony is currently appealing the judges decission! Sony is not currently able to sell these products, that will also as per the judges orders carry over to next generation as the controllers for ps3 use the same force feedback that the current dual shock controllers use, whats this mean to the consumer ... as per inversions president Vic Viegas,

The most meaningful thing to a gamer would be the risk of this permanent injunction. If suddenly Sony can't sell games, obviously consumers will be affected. Retailers, obviously will be affected. Third-party providers, suppliers to Sony, game publishers who publish these games won't be able to sell them. So there would be a dramatic impact for anybody who currently is using a PlayStation product.

And it probably is very good for the Xbox product line.

The question is, will Sony allow this to occur, will they at some point decide that it's better to resolve this than risk losing their PlayStation franchise? You can only assume that they would, but we've been at this for three years and they haven't decided to go in that direction. So they decided to fight it at all costs through court--and that, I think, does subject their customers and their partners to some risk, if, in fact, the permanent injunction is in place without stay.

As you can see this is a BIG issue for sony, wether or not they treat it as one is a different story, now this stuff about blue ray tehnology don't make me laugh ... do you still own a BETA MAX PLAYER? Laughing

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:25 am

Schism @ Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:50 pm wrote:

not quite??? do you read the news? sony is currently appealing the judges decission! Sony is not currently able to sell these products, that will also as per the judges orders carry over to next generation as the controllers for ps3 use the same force feedback that the current dual shock controllers use, whats this mean to the consumer ... as per inversions president Vic Viegas,

You apparently skim the news, not read it.

The court order is not in effect until the appeal is over.

Further, Sony announced that they'd be shipping in 2006 long before this court issue.

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The most meaningful thing to a gamer would be the risk of this permanent injunction. If suddenly Sony can't sell games, obviously consumers will be affected. Retailers, obviously will be affected. Third-party providers, suppliers to Sony, game publishers who publish these games won't be able to sell them. So there would be a dramatic impact for anybody who currently is using a PlayStation product.

Oh come on. If they lose the appeal, they pay $90 million, then either release a new redesigned controller, or license the technology and keep on selling. Either way, they keep selling as before, just with a major loss.

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As you can see this is a BIG issue for sony, wether or not they treat it as one is a different story, now this stuff about blue ray tehnology don't make me laugh ... do you still own a BETA MAX PLAYER? Laughing

Uh, thats kinda the point. Sony wants to dominate like they FAILED to do with the Beta Max. They're HOPING it won't happen again, and using the PS3 to achieve that.

Whether it will work or not is yet to be decided.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:06 am

I hope the blue ray disc does take off cause it is a lot more storage which is great for anyone that works with pc's! However if Hd-dvd gets eaten up by the public it maybe another vhs - beta war! Sad

and who knows what will happen

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:04 pm

Schism @ Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:06 am wrote:

I hope the blue ray disc does take off cause it is a lot more storage which is great for anyone that works with pc's! However if Hd-dvd gets eaten up by the public it maybe another vhs - beta war! Sad

and who knows what will happen

It already is a VHS vs Beta war.

However, HD-DVD has a few advantages of its own. It's harder to scratch than Blu-ray, its much, much cheaper to produce, and most importantly, its easily made backwards compatable.

Blu-ray is not backwards compatible with DVD's unless you get a specialized more expensive drive with both lasers.

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:09 pm

yeah I was reading up on both technologies and to be honest as much as blue ray looks like a better option, the HD-dvd is going to be cheaper to produce for manufacturers which in turn will be cheaper for consumers not to mention it comes out this year... which kinda sucks cause I would prefer all formats to use the higher storage media Crying or Very sad

Kai Regular Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 102

I think it's way too soon for new systems... Sad

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:46 pm

really? cause I can't wait, don't get me wrong I still play older systems and games but man do I want to try these new systems Very Happy

Team XLink Administrator Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 4061

VHS vs Betamax.

From what i have been told it was the pornography industry that killed the betamax.

All the major pornography companys choose VHS.

New techonolgy...i want it now!!!

Either way you look at this situtaion, Its a win win for us gamers.

We get the Xbox 360 this year, And have time to save the pennys for the PS3 next year.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:32 pm

thats exactly what I was thinking Wink

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:27 pm

Tin_Pu @ Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:27 pm wrote:

I think it's way too soon for new systems... Sad

Why is that? I think 2006 is the perfect time, although this year (Microsoft's release) is just too early simply because they're just launching too early for the new formats. The XBox 2 disks can't hold a byte more than XBox 1.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:29 pm

There are only two questions that will determine which console sells more. They are... Is Sony going to put a hard drive in the PS3? If they do, it is uderstood that Microsoft will put it back in the Xbox 2. The other question is... Would it really matter if Microsoft added the hard drive to the Xbox 2? Even if the Xbox 2 doesn't contain a hard drive, I believe that the next-gen Xbox will outsell the PS3 because for 1, Xbox, Sony, and sometimes Nintendo make the same games, just for different platforms. While Sony's games are pretty entertaining, Nintendo and especially Xbox games seem more realistic and life-like as compared to the PS2 games. Take Ghost Recon as an example between PS2 and Xbox. On PS2, everything looks too pixelated and rough-edged. On Xbox, though, the graphics are more intense, and mimic, to a certain degree, what a person might actually look like if they were put directly into the game, thus making the game more interesting and thereby giving the player, and other players like him/her to go out and buy the game themselves, or to buy other games like it on the same platform.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:30 pm

duke_uk @ Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:14 pm wrote:

VHS vs Betamax.

From what i have been told it was the pornography industry that killed the betamax.

All the major pornography companys choose VHS.

I've heard this. Do you know why they chose VHS?

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We get the Xbox 360 this year, And have time to save the pennys for the PS3 next year.

Though there is the Nintendo Revolution to look at. Free online play with most of the XBox Live features, built in WiFi, and it seems better graphics than the XBox 360...plus an undisclosed new way of playing games...this could be good.

I'd seriously suggest waiting on the XBox 360. Microsoft is rushing it to launch, and from everything we know it will be the only one to charge for online play (though Kai will probably solve that), and it will have the worst medium (standard DVD's), and worst graphics of them all, and no backwards compatability. MS will probably launch a massive hyping campaign to get people to buy it NOW, instead of waiting for the superior consoles (Revolution and PS3).

PS3 is probably going to rock all with graphics, being the last to launch...whoohoo!

Team XLink Administrator Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 4061

On the subject of VHS vs betamax, i think it was due to jazz films simply choosing VHS, It went from there.

Im not ruling out Nintendo, If i have the spare cash, i will buy there next gen console too.

As for the graphics situation, well we are only starting to see the xbox get pushed to its limits now. So any new console is not gonna get pushed to its limits untill the 3rd generation of games. (we where are with xbox now)

Also for backwards compatability, Well nothing has been confirmed yet, Have to wait till E3 to get everything confirmed. Or this MTV program, who knows what they are gonna disclose.