UCLA Student Tasered

Kai Spammer Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1168

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lARW9r5V29s

This kid was tazered earlier this week and now today is the protest taking place....

Kai Spammer Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 1332

All because he brought his book late

Why did he have to make things difficult, why not just leave, stupid students Twisted Evil

Kai Spammer Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1168

Precisely! I see all these student rally to his side and claiming it was police brutality. I think it is ridiculous.

This kid was asked to present his student ID because he was on school grounds after hours and he refused to. Then he was asked to leave because he did not want to prove that he was a student and refused to leave. Then they went to arrest him because of this refusal. Then he refused arrest and started shouting derogatory comments at police. So after he got out of control, they tasered him. Even after that, he continues to provoke the police.

I don't see why so many people are rallying to his side. You cant expect to instigate a situation with police officers and then expect to walk out untouched.

Kai Spammer Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 1332

Most people protest, not because of the issues but because they can, well thats what i do Very Happy

He was compleleting in the wrong, and im sure hed prefer a taser than a good battering with a nightstick Twisted Evil

Kai Spammer Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 8681

People are fecking stupid.

But i bet that kid is awake now. Very Happy

Kai Spammer Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1168

Well, he's ok now but he's claiming that the whole group of officers hate Iranians. I think its absurd because the squad of officers was comprised of Africans, Hispanics, Asians and Caucasians. I doubt they all secretly had it out for Iranians. Especially since UCLA has a decent sized community of Middle-Easterns and they have not had a clash with the police presence.

Team XLink Moderator Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 267

[VC]Mortj109 wrote:

People are fecking stupid.

But i bet that kid is awake now. Very Happy

LMAO

Team XLink Baker Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Posts: 676

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_calsAKHI3E&mode=related&search=

Want the full story of what happened to that poor guy. Listen to this dude.

I feel that it was totally uncalled for and this is just another example of why I do not trust the police.

Gunny

Kai Spammer Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 8681

Which is y ill be on call instead of the cops in case shit gets otta hand at the campout Smile

Kai Spammer Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1168

-Gunslinger- wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_calsAKHI3E&mode=related&search=

Want the full story of what happened to that poor guy. Listen to this dude.

I feel that it was totally uncalled for and this is just another example of why I do not trust the police.

Gunny

I understand your view as there are dirty cops out there. This guy is not telling the full story though, he just tells his diagnosis of the situation from viewing the same video which I posted(which had began recording after the first confrontation) and from the reply comments of what individuals posted on youtube about it under the video.

Not to mention, I find it hard to listen to this view when he throws in four lettered obscenities every two seconds Confused

But there are numerous stories circulating around. The guy in this video states that the police did a random demand for an ID check yet that was not true. According to UCLA, it was a staff member who asked and then had the police arrive when he refused to prove that he was a student and also refused to leave.

I see it this way, the kid had his ID on him. He is most likely a kid who grew up quite sheltered and does not understand the importance of such actions. All he had to do is pull it out and this whole mess would be avoided. Yet, he still provoked the police when they arrived. Even after being tasered he still provoked with several obscenities and other such comments.

Not to mention the fact that you saw several students attempting to become involved, in the eyes of the officers, it might have been a potential situation for mob like retaliation. Under those circumstances, I would assume that keeping any offender subdued under certain potential circumstances would be the safest option for the officers.

Kai Spammer Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1168

Cant believe I forgot this.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/16/ucla_taser_incident/

In that article, the statement was released(near the end) of what had happened

Quote:

This is a longstanding library policy to ensure the safety of students during the late-night hours. The CSO [community service officer] made an announcement that he would be checking for university identification. When a person, who was later identified as ... Tabatabainejad, refused to provide any identification, the CSO told him that if he refused to do so, he would have to leave the library.

Since, after repeated requests, he would neither leave nor show identification, the CSO notified UCPD officers, who responded and asked Tabatabainejad to leave the premises multiple times. He continued to refuse. As the officers attempted to escort him out, he went limp and continued to refuse to cooperate with officers or leave the building.

Kai Admirer Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 440

Did they really half to taser him twice though?

Ive seen worse on cops, and they dont do that much...

ANYWAYZ, walk it off.

Haha.

Kai Spammer Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1168

Well, seeing as that the statements said the offender himself was able to walk out of the front door on his own power then one would assume the voltage wasnt as powerful as people are making it out to be. Not to mention that the second time he was tasered, he told them, "Here's you're fucking patriot act, power abusers". By law(in America), that alone is enough to be considered verbal attack upon an officer. Not to mention that I've seen people say things not half as bad and still get slammed for verbal assault.

Kai Admirer Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 440

Wouldnt care if he could walk out on his own, the shit would still hurt.

Kai Lover Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 879

You don’t know the length of time it was from being tasered to him walking out. That could have been a half an hour.

Every single test done with tasers they ask the person if they even have the power to get up and fight after they have been tasered. No one has ever said yes. There were about 5-6 cops in that video and they could have handled the situation without using the taser. The crowed didn't even look rowdy until after they tasered him. Everyone was basically still in their seats till they heard him screaming.

It was uncalled for.

Kai Spammer Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1168

-|iTs|-CrAcK[A] wrote:

Wouldnt care if he could walk out on his own, the shit would still hurt.

well I dont think they want it to tickle Laughing

I'd rather have them taser me with low powered tasers than smack me up with a baton or pistol whip me. That could hurt worse! Ouch

Kai Admirer Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 440

But in this case they wouldnt do neither of them...

Even on low power, people have died from being tasered...

Kai Spammer Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1168

-|iTs|-CrAcK[A] wrote:

But in this case they wouldnt do neither of them...

Even on low power, people have died from being tasered...

.........I've seen people get a bigger charge from hooking their genitals up to a car battery Laughing

It was either on youtube or google video, I cant remember. Actually, I'll search for it again! Laughing

Team XLink Baker Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Posts: 676

[MF]superman wrote:

-Gunslinger- wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_calsAKHI3E&mode=related&search=

Want the full story of what happened to that poor guy. Listen to this dude.

I feel that it was totally uncalled for and this is just another example of why I do not trust the police.

Gunny

I understand your view as there are dirty cops out there. This guy is not telling the full story though, he just tells his diagnosis of the situation from viewing the same video which I posted(which had began recording after the first confrontation) and from the reply comments of what individuals posted on youtube about it under the video.

Not to mention, I find it hard to listen to this view when he throws in four lettered obscenities every two seconds Confused

But there are numerous stories circulating around. The guy in this video states that the police did a random demand for an ID check yet that was not true. According to UCLA, it was a staff member who asked and then had the police arrive when he refused to prove that he was a student and also refused to leave.

I see it this way, the kid had his ID on him. He is most likely a kid who grew up quite sheltered and does not understand the importance of such actions. All he had to do is pull it out and this whole mess would be avoided. Yet, he still provoked the police when they arrived. Even after being tasered he still provoked with several obscenities and other such comments.

Not to mention the fact that you saw several students attempting to become involved, in the eyes of the officers, it might have been a potential situation for mob like retaliation. Under those circumstances, I would assume that keeping any offender subdued under certain potential circumstances would be the safest option for the officers.

I totally disagree with you.

If the kid was not a student and was acting like a punk then they should of thrown him out of the building by dragging him. But they had absolutely no right at all to torture that kid.

Police are nothing more then bullies with guns.

Gunslinger

Kai Spammer Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1168

Well, I try to put myself in their shoes.

When I do that, I see it this way. I'm on patrol at 11:30PM at night and then I get a disturbance call. I respond to the disturbance and ask the individual to prove who he is and he doesnt. At this point I dont know who he is. He could be anybody or any weirdo, you dont know and cant fully tell by looks. He then commands me to let him go home when I just want him to prove to me he is a student. Then I go to arrest him because he becomes very verbal. Suddenly he becomes more more rebellious and creates a bigger scene, well from then, I'd see a reason to subdue him. From that point there, though its up to opinion and I believe this is a life lesson learned for the kid.

However, I'm not saying it rules out your statement as you are entitled to your own view. If you believe that cops are just bullies with guns then are you truly happy with the area you reside in? I believe that there are dirty cops but that shouldnt ruin it for the rest of them as I have met plenty of law enforcement agents from my area whom are truly heroes and I've also met a few whom should not have a badge in the first place but for the most part(in my area) the police force does a stand up job of keeping crime at a minimum.