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DrShmoo
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Is your network reachable?
NOT YET
Are you using a port-forward?
I have a US robotics router(not sure of model) and could not figure out how to do a port foward via portfoward.com
Is your console being detected?
No. (xbox)
Brief description of your network setup:
Cable modem, into a router, split to xbox and computer.
Do you use a software firewall? What brand? Have you made any changes to it?
yes, one provided by Norton Antivirus 2004, I have made no changes. May have one from XP installed as well.
Operating System?
XP Media Center 2004(sp2 installed)
Problem description?
My console isn't being detected thus I am not able to find games via System Link. My network is NOT YET reachable. it becomes reached after entering the arena, but my console has yet to be detected.

[KaiUserConfig]
kaiUsername=!
kaiPassword=!
kaiPort=0
kaiDeepPort=0
kaiAccept=LOCAL
kaiTimeout=NOUI
kaiNIC=0
kaiLaunch=BOTH
kaiHomeBrew=OFF
kaiWireless=
kaiUI=Default
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Seek your router's documentation or manufacturer's website on port-forwarding information. A little googling with your specific router model should hopefully turn up how to actually do the port forward.

Even though this may not be the *EXACT* model you have, I'm sure it's quite similar.

http://www.portforward.com/usr/8054-portforwarding.htm

These are the models which have instructions on port-forward.com

USR8000
USR8000A
USR8000A-02
USR8000A-03
USR8003
USR8011
USR8022
USR8054
SureConnect 9106
SureConnect 9106 V2

Now if yours isn't one of those, don't worry, just load one up. I'm sure it's almost the same if not exactly the same.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Scrap what I just wrote.

Quote:
My network is NOT YET reachable. it becomes reached after entering the arena, but my console has yet to be detected.


That's correct. You must intiate some traffic by *at least* switching into arena mode. This will help Kai determine if your network is reachable or not. So your problem is nothing to do with port-forwarding, as your network IS reachable. This is more a case of the XBox not being detected, and I smell Norton being at fault here.

You say you've got Norton Anti-Virus 2004, but anti-virus has nothing to do with a firewall. I assume you are talking abotu Norton Internet Security 2004, and part of that is the firewall, and another part of it is the antivirus. I for one know that it always comes up with that stupid pop-up asking to allow Kai. Norton's products are a piece of shit (excuse the wording). Just disable whatever 'security' features Norton claims it has. Turn on the SP2 firewall.

Just also noticed you're using MCE (nice Very Happy).

Also, make sure your console is 'searching for games'.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 8:45 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

dfunked wrote:
Scrap what I just wrote.

Quote:
My network is NOT YET reachable. it becomes reached after entering the arena, but my console has yet to be detected.


That's correct. You must intiate some traffic by *at least* switching into arena mode. This will help Kai determine if your network is reachable or not. So your problem is nothing to do with port-forwarding, as your network IS reachable. This is more a case of the XBox not being detected, and I smell Norton being at fault here.

You say you've got Norton Anti-Virus 2004, but anti-virus has nothing to do with a firewall. I assume you are talking abotu Norton Internet Security 2004, and part of that is the firewall, and another part of it is the antivirus. I for one know that it always comes up with that stupid pop-up asking to allow Kai. Norton's products are a piece of shit (excuse the wording). Just disable whatever 'security' features Norton claims it has. Turn on the SP2 firewall.

Just also noticed you're using MCE (nice Very Happy).

Also, make sure your console is 'searching for games'.

I am not very computer smart, I can do the basics. My dad has made it so I cannot download or change important settings. How do I turn on the SP2 firewall? Will this allow my console to be detected?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:12 am Reply with quoteBack to top

You want to turn SP2 firewall "off". Just right click on My Network places, hit properties. Then right click on your internet connection and go to properties. Then at the top you will see an advance tab. Click that and it will say "Windows Firewall". Click the settings and turn that puppy off Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:28 am Reply with quoteBack to top

SS-Funk wrote:
You want to turn SP2 firewall "off". Just right click on My Network places, hit properties. Then right click on your internet connection and go to properties. Then at the top you will see an advance tab. Click that and it will say "Windows Firewall". Click the settings and turn that puppy off Wink
um, i cant find properties.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

What one? If it is "My Network Places" you might have to add it to your view. Right click on the Taskbar and then Properties. The click on Start Menu on the top, then customize. Now on the top click the "advance" tab and scroll down on the window until you find a check box for "My Network Places". Check that, and then close and it will be added to your Start bar.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

SS-Funk wrote:
What one? If it is "My Network Places" you might have to add it to your view. Right click on the Taskbar and then Properties. The click on Start Menu on the top, then customize. Now on the top click the "advance" tab and scroll down on the window until you find a check box for "My Network Places". Check that, and then close and it will be added to your Start bar.
its in my start bar, i just dont understand how to turn it off once in properties. I think ill need to change my user settings to admin anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:48 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Talk to your dad. Even point him here if you want, so that he can see you're not trying to make yourself vulnerable to attacks and there's a legitimate reason for it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

dfunked wrote:
Talk to your dad. Even point him here if you want, so that he can see you're not trying to make yourself vulnerable to attacks and there's a legitimate reason for it.
he doesnt even know i have the program. he hates stuff like this. hes wierd about downloading anything. it ticks me off. i know his password and i could make myself an admin. ill try it tomorrow while hes at work.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:25 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I hate it when people get paranoid over things like this.. it's just silly..

But don't blame us when he finds XLink Kai running Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:27 am Reply with quoteBack to top

dfunked wrote:
I hate it when people get paranoid over things like this.. it's just silly..

But don't blame us when he finds XLink Kai running Very Happy
eh, he won't. so i'll try finding what you're talking about tomorrow on my admin user, and then report back.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:05 am Reply with quoteBack to top

That’s kewl, keep us updated as much as possible. Also go back up to the top once admin and start all over with my instructions on turning the firewall off. If by doing so you are able to connect we will try and turn it back on and allow traffic from Xlink Kai and see if that works for you.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:01 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

ok, so now my xbox is detectable, but it still isnt finding any games despite the fact that there are a few up and running on kai.

UPDATE- after a few minutes it found one game, but when loading the map the game said connection lost, check yer cables.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

DrShmoo wrote:
ok, so now my xbox is detectable, but it still isnt finding any games despite the fact that there are a few up and running on kai.

UPDATE- after a few minutes it found one game, but when loading the map the game said connection lost, check yer cables.


Games that are already underway will not appear on your screen, unless

a. the game allows users to join at anytime (Unreal Championship, Halo 2)
b. the host of the game sets his Kai arena status to HOSTING

As for the lost connection, it's still a firewall issue. Just so we're clear, what's the status of firewalls running on the PC?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

dfunked wrote:
DrShmoo wrote:
ok, so now my xbox is detectable, but it still isnt finding any games despite the fact that there are a few up and running on kai.

UPDATE- after a few minutes it found one game, but when loading the map the game said connection lost, check yer cables.


Games that are already underway will not appear on your screen, unless

a. the game allows users to join at anytime (Unreal Championship, Halo 2)
b. the host of the game sets his Kai arena status to HOSTING

As for the lost connection, it's still a firewall issue. Just so we're clear, what's the status of firewalls running on the PC?
off.
i have no firewall running to help make my console detectable. if you have halo can you set up a room and see if i can play or not? you know like a test run?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I have PAL-Australia Halo, so it's not going to help you much. I have other titles, but I'm rather pre-occupied atm. Maybe one of the other mods will be able to assist you (it's time for me to sleep)..
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Problem solved.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:10 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Excellent..
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