can't see games from console

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:15 pm

Read through many applicable helps, forum posts, no luck

Is your network reachable? Yes, right after clicking on Arena Globe
Are you using a port-forward? Yes
Is your console being detected? Yes
Brief description of your network setup: Network Everywhere (Linksys) routher, both pc and xbox hardwired
Do you use a software firewall? Zone Alarm 5.1.0.33? have ensured 0.0.0.1 open
Operating System? WindowsXP Pro + SP2
Problem description? no games from console

[KaiUserConfig]
kaiPort=30000
kaiDeepPort=0
kaiAccept=LOCAL
kaiTimeout=NOUI
kaiNIC=0
kaiLaunch=BOTH
kaiHomebrew=OFF
kaiPAT=OFF currently, have tried both with multiple ports
kaiAutoLogin=OFF
kaiWireless= no settings regaurding
kaiUI=Default

i've used 3074, 8062, 30,000 w/ variations of pat, searching software and hardware firewall for blocks regarding with no resolve

custom upnp forwarding currently external and internal port of 30000 udp for the ip address 192.168.1.104 as corresponding to the DHCP table in reference to my computer.

Alright I think that's everything. I've spent several hours trying to resolve this on my own following all guidelines. Hope you can help
Thanks

** Forgot to mention people do see me and a reasonable ping attached from within a specific arena server

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:13 pm

are you sure you cant see any games?

What games have you tried?

If your network is reachable, and kai detects your console.

There are not many more things that could be wrong.

If you have time, try to get ahold of me in the Halo 2 arena today/tonight
and i will try and help you get set.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:23 pm

If people can see your ping and the Kai Diagnostic screen reads that your network is reachable then the only thing left is your Zone Alarm firewall. One thing that has helped numerous people with Zone Alarm is to allow UDP outbound traffic on all ports from the IP address 0.0.0.1 - and while I know this isn't the best fix in the world unfortunately it has to do with the different firewall softwares and how they handle TCP/IP sockets which is something we can't control.

If you aren't opposed to it, try uninstalling the Zone Alarm firewall and see if everything suddenly starts to work. I'm almost sure it will. Of course, it'd be a good idea to backup any installation files, configs and install keys you need beforehand.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:27 pm

SS-CybrPunk wrote:

try uninstalling the Zone Alarm firewall and see if everything suddenly starts to work. I'm almost sure it will. Of course, it'd be a good idea to backup any installation files, configs and install keys you need beforehand.

Why not simply just.. Disable it? Wink

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:29 pm

As we have stated in NUMEROUS threads - disabling the firewall does not release the restrictions that they create. It merely disables the firewall executable with the same ports STILL BLOCKED AND UNABLE TO BE USED.

We've only gone over this in, I don't know... a few dozen threads? The ultimate test is to remove the software completely if disabling does not help.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:22 pm

i did a little testing with this guy and he should be good to go.

the problem may have been live updates related but we will probably have this resolved by tomorrow Smile

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:24 pm

SS-CybrPunk wrote:

As we have stated in NUMEROUS threads - disabling the firewall does not release the restrictions that they create. It merely disables the firewall executable with the same ports STILL BLOCKED AND UNABLE TO BE USED.

We've only gone over this in, I don't know... a few dozen threads? The ultimate test is to remove the software completely if disabling does not help.

Umm, 'cough'?
SiegWarheit

Kai Beginner

Ok, enough spam for me in this thread Very Happy

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:49 am

well, I tried enabling all ports outbound, seems like this was something that had to be done the hardware firewall. I was unable to allow 0-65535, but able to allow various other ranges in between with no resolve.
From what Die-Hard directed me to do, there were no live updates on my system... so that does seem to be the culprit. Also from the work we did, I don't seem to be visibly any closer to resolving the issue; NOT that I don't appreciate all the help, as I certainly do appreciate it.
I have addes 0.0.0.1 to the trusted zone in zone alarm with no difference in conectivity. Was there something additional to this that I was supposed to do. It seemed that adding it as a trusted zone, and seeing no negative log releated activity with that IP that this is not the problem either.
I will probably be uninstalling the firewall soon, unless given other recommendations. In the case that I uninstall it. . . well what Firewall software are the moderators using that don't bring trouble, and i'm guessing that if I reinstall after a successful connection from uninstall, that the same problem will re-surface. Thanks for all the help guys, please advise.

Teknow

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:58 am

teknow wrote:

well, I tried enabling all ports outbound, seems like this was something that had to be done the hardware firewall. I was unable to allow 0-65535, but able to allow various other ranges in between with no resolve.
From what Die-Hard directed me to do, there were no live updates on my system... so that does seem to be the culprit. Also from the work we did, I don't seem to be visibly any closer to resolving the issue; NOT that I don't appreciate all the help, as I certainly do appreciate it.
I have addes 0.0.0.1 to the trusted zone in zone alarm with no difference in conectivity. Was there something additional to this that I was supposed to do. It seemed that adding it as a trusted zone, and seeing no negative log releated activity with that IP that this is not the problem either.
I will probably be uninstalling the firewall soon, unless given other recommendations. In the case that I uninstall it. . . well what Firewall software are the moderators using that don't bring trouble, and i'm guessing that if I reinstall after a successful connection from uninstall, that the same problem will re-surface. Thanks for all the help guys, please advise.

Teknow

You can use Sygate Personal Firewall. Search for 'sygate AND summary' and you should get one result, which includes the instructions on how to get it all working.

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:11 am

will try, uninstall of zone alarm a no go. No difference after restart, restarting kai, restarting xbox, ensuring xp firewall off. Hell of a process for some of us.

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:34 am

using sygate now, no difference

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:35 pm

what type of internet connection do you have?

I SAW your xbox and you HAD a ping.

you SHOULD be having no problems

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:14 pm

i have Zoom town ADSL, the modem is a Westell B90, and their appears to be no configuration software for it. This end I have researched. I am wondering about the Network Everywhere Router, and the possibility of the hardware firewall playing in.
Waiting for advice.

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:15 am

You followed the Sygate instructions in this post?

http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=20890#20890

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:51 am

yes i've followed this, isn't making any difference

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:16 am

i saw some blocks coming up under my routers ip (192.168.1.1), so I allowed them via a rule to get rid of the block. Don't see any negative activity otherwise
Still no go.

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:32 am

this officially blows, just for shits and giggles I tried with and without port forwarding; was at 30k, change to 0, leaving it there.
Same results with XBconnect
I'll monitor for responses, but I'm done tinkering on my own for now

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:54 am

OK... I went to http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm to look for port forwarding info, just to make sure i wasn't dicking it up. I did as I always have, in addition, disabling block wan request, as it specifies for the (Network Everywhere NR041. No Change
I then tried enabling and port forwarding with the router, allowing it with firewall, with and W/out PAT checked; w/ forwarding off with and w/out PAT. I'm out of Ideas.... Again

Team XLink Administrator Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 3354

Seems you might need some one on one time to get this sorted. Hit me on MSN after 5pm EST and I will do my best to get you up and running. Unless someone else has time to fix it before then.

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:15 pm

Well guys, I'm an ass, it seems I've been trying to play Rainbox 6-3 Black Arrow with plain old Rainbow 6-3. So the moral of the story is... when you get a game off ebay that has similar titles. . . look a little harder to make sure they shipped the one they sold. I'm off to get my money back, and of course sue for time lost in solving an error that didn't exist (pain and suffering).
Thanks for all of your help, Rainbox 6-3 plays perfectly.
Sheesh

Oh yeah and of course apologies to all involved lol